This Turtle Ain't Movin'

Decided to give this Turtle trading method a miss. After further tests, I found out that this is a rather long-term in nature......

........and I hate to be a long-term trader!

So far my intraday strategy is working well. I need to complement it with short-term & medium-term strategies, which I am putting together now.

Why multiple strategies?

That's because markets have various phases, and each of the strategy is designed to capture a certain part of the market phase. I try to have a collection of tools that I can use to tackle different market conditions.

"Turtle" On....

I am currently testing out a variation of the Turtle trading strategy, which is basically a Channel Breakout. There's nothing fancy about this strategy, really simple stuff.

Since I like simple stuff, I thought.....hey, why not take a look at it and see if I can get it to work on FOREX? I may need to tweak a bit here and there.........nonetheless, it should be an interesting piece of research work, no?

Realigning my Trading Focus

July marks the month where I finally transformed myself from discretionary trading into 100% mechanical approach........

........and I have not looked back since then!

Not only that, I have also decided to ditch stocks trading and simply focus 100% into forex, as I'm getting better results from the currency market compared to equities.

Looking back, I find myself more at ease as a trader. I am no longer excited about placing and closing trades. The only excitement comes when I'm researching & testing new trading ideas. The tried and tested ones.....well, they're getting pretty boring.

Is this a positive development, as I continue to evolve as a trader?

I think so, as my trading account continues to grow. Trading is no longer stressful, boring in fact. Heck, I now have a lot of free time that I end up yakking more on Facebook (a great way to waste time).

I am now in the middle of research into another medium-term trend trading strategy. And yes, it's 100% mechanical. I wouldn't have it any other way!

More Math!

I received a few questions regarding Risk-of-ruin & Expectancy. Well, the math is as follows:

Risk-of-Ruin
-------------
{[1-(W-L)]/[1+(W-L)]}power of U

where

W= probability of winning
L= probability of losing
U= number of units of money in trading account

The objective is to get r-o-r = 0%

Expectancy
------------
[probability of winning x (avg win/avg loss)]-[probability of losing x (avg loss/avg loss)]

The objective is to get a positive expectancy number. Obviously the higher, the better.

So, there you go! For more info, go read Dr Van Tharp's books (e.g. Trade Your Way to Financial Freedom).

In God I Trust, All Others Must Show Me Data!

Carrying out engineering evaluations were part & parcel of my job when I was working as an Engineer not too long ago. Whatever new things, system, materials, process.......anything new that I want to implement, I had to present hard data to my management as proof of project viability, before I can implement any of them.

Well, it's the same with trading. Whenever I'm looking at a new trading system, I will need to test it out first, before I start putting real money trading it.

I have just completed a forward-test on the new strategy on demo that I am looking at. The summary of result is as follows:

# of Win	28
# of Loss	15
Accuracy	65%
$ Win	$18,065
$ Loss	-$7,266
Avg Win	$645.18
Avg Loss	-$484.40
Avg W:L	1.33
% Exp	52%
# of units	40
W prob	0.65
L prob	0.35
Sub r-o-r	0.54
% r-o-r	0%

Over the test period, this system yielded 52% Expectancy with 0% risk-of-ruin. No real money involved, as the test was done on a demo platform. I am comfortable with these statistical figures, so I will trade live with this system starting this week onwards.

For those who are curious on these calculations, they're all based on Dr Van Tharp's work. Google 'em for more info.

This system is basically daytrading off daily timeframe, so it's a pretty active trading. Since I'll be trading practically everyday, I will not put live charts on each of the new trades that I'm taking.......just feels like a lot of work to me.

I'm BAAAAAAAAAAACK!

To all of you who have dropped by, only to discover that I've not posted any new posts - well, what can I say..........blame it on the world cup that is going on now?

Pretty darn lame excuse, I know......

The truth is, I have been really, really busy exploring new trading concepts and techniques. I am now more leaning towards mechanical trading approach, where's there's absolutely no room for ambiguity.

In other words, either a setup is there, or it isn't. Simple as that, no?

But that's not what I want to talk about here.

Along the way of my research, I have also explored two very important subjects which I have ignored before in the past (and probably to the detriment of my trading account)......

......these two were actually discussed in detail by Dr Van Tharp in his book "Trade Your Way To Financial Freedom".

And no, I actually did not read the book - but the info was distilled by one of my mentor, and he had summarized all the crucial ones and handed it to me. How convenient!

Yes sir, here are the two things that I have been enlightened to. They are:

1) % Risk of Ruin
2) % Expectancy

Risk-of-ruin is simply a statistical calculation for the probability of getting into financial ruin, or getting blown trading accounts.

Expectancy refers to what you can expect to earn, on average, for every dollar you risk in a trade.

Yep, I know.......boring statistics! But I have found out that these are crucial info that I need to know, when I'm assessing viability of new trading concepts.

And it is because of these statistical studies that have made me depart from discretionary trading towards something that is more mechanical, or rule-based strategies.

Why?

Because I find it difficult to do objective back-testing when there are discretionary elements in any of the trading systems that I had attempted to evaluate.

Mechanical systems are easier in this respect, because they are:

1) 100% objective
2) Verifiable

I have just extensively back-tested a system that gave 0% r-o-r and positive expectancy. I am now "forward-testing" the system.

Taking a Break.....

Had a rare opportunity to sit down and listen to a professional Futures trader talking about what he does in his everyday trades. Pretty interesting stuff, and he sure did light up a few light bulbs in my head.

I am going to take a break from FOREX trading for a while, and re-strategize my approach. No, I'm not going into Futures, but a lot of the stuff that he talked about is applicable to most financial markets. After all, a chart is a chart is a chart.........only the title is different.

CHF.JPY

Closed this trade for a profit

Trading in Multiple Markets

Sometimes it can be frustrating to wait for DAYS for potential trade setups. This is the time when we can have tendencies to "force" trades i.e. seeing setups that just aren't there.

To solve this "trading itch" problem, I trade other financial instruments as well.

Besides FOREX, I trade stocks (and sometimes Options) that are listed in NYSE & NASDAQ.

I trade stocks a little bit differently than FOREX, though -simply because stocks have different nuances (or soul) that are somewhat unique.

For instance, stocks have volume, which can be a powerful indicator when combined with other confluences.

I also notice that it pays to analyze what the general market is up to, via index analysis (I prefer to use the NASDAQ chart instead of Dow or S&P500).

You can view some of my stock trades here, whenever you're bored with FOREX.

Enjoy!

EurCad

This trade was stopped out.

I think I'm beginning to be a bit sloppy in my trade selections. I need to be more picky the next time I assess potential setups.

New Trade

Eur.Cad

Nicked by News

Trailing stop was hit for a small loss during News

Getting ready for news blast

Aussie news will be out soon. Moved my stop to limit my loss, should the news move this pair upwards.

So near, yet so far

Missed my take profit target for a few pips, before price reversed and took me out for a small loss. Luckily I was able to trail my stop in time.

Swiss Roll

Let's see if this Swiss pair wants to roll.

Clear Sky!

Closed this Pound Swissy trade for a gain.

New Trade

Planes are soaring the European skies again. Let's see if this fella wants to follow suit.

Crash Landed

Lost the cable trade.

New Trade

I'm taking a stab at cable.

Another Quickie

Out for a quick profit.

Loonie

Just entered into this one. I plan to just grab some quick pips before I hit the sack. Let's see how she goes.

Quickie

Took profit on my EUR.AUD trade.

New Trade

Since it's a new day of the week, why not slot in a new trade as well, no?

The 5 Levels of Trading

Here is an interesting article that I had found on the net. Unfortunately, I've no info on the author, so I am not able to give due credit.

Nonetheless, there are lots of gems in it, especially for those of you who do have aspirations to be trading one day.

Enjoy your read from this "anon" author!

Step One: Unconscious Incompetence

This is the first step you take when starting to look into trading. You know that it’s
a good way of making money because you've heard so many things about it and
heard of so many millionaires. Unfortunately, just like when you first desire to
drive a car you think it will be easy - after all, how hard can it be? Price either
moves up or down - what's the big secret to that then - let’s get cracking!
Unfortunately, just as when you first take your place in front of a steering wheel
you find very quickly that you haven't got the first clue about what you're trying to
do. You take lots of trades and lots of risks. When you enter a trade it turns
against you so you reverse and it turns again….and again, and again. You may
have initial success, and that’s even worse - because it tells your brain that this
really is simple and you start to risk more money. You try to turn around your
losses by doubling up every time you trade. Sometimes you'll get away with it but
more often than not you will come away scathed and bruised You are totally
oblivious to your incompetence at trading. This step can last for a week or two of
trading but the market is usually swift and you move on to the next stage.

Step Two - Conscious Incompetence

Step two is where you realize that there is more work involved in trading and that
you might actually have to work a few things out. You consciously realize that
you are an incompetent trader - you don't have the skills or the insight to turn a
regular profit. You now set about buying systems and e-books galore, read
websites based everywhere from USA to the Ukraine and begin your search for
the Holy Grail. During this time you will be a system nomad - you will flick from
method to method day by day and week by week never sticking with one long
enough to actually see if it does work. Every time you come upon a new indicator
you'll be ecstatic that this is the one that will make all the difference. You will test
out automated systems on Metatrader, you'll play with moving averages,
Fibonacci lines, support & resistance, Pivots, Fractals, Divergence, DMI, ADX,
and a hundred other things all in the vein hope that your 'magic system' starts
today. You'll be a top and bottom picker, trying to find the exact point of reversal
with your indicators and you'll find yourself chasing losing trades and even
adding to them because you are so sure you are right. You'll go into the live chat
room and see other traders making pips and you want to know why it's not you -
you'll ask a million questions, some of which are so dumb that looking back you
feel a bit silly. You'll then reach the point where you think all the ones who are
calling pips after pips are liars - they can’t be making that amount because you've
studied and you don't make that, you know as much as they do and they must be
lying. But they're in there day after day and their account just grows whilst yours
falls.

You will be like a teenager - the traders that make money will freely give you
advice but you're stubborn and think that you know best - you take no notice and
overtrade your account even though everyone says you are mad to - but you
know better. You'll consider following the calls that others make but even then it
won’t work so you try paying for signals from someone else - they don't work for
you either. You might even approach a 'guru' like Rob Booker or someone on a
chat board who promises to make you into a trader(usually for a fee of course).
Whether the guru is good or not you won’t win because there is no replacement
for screen time and you still think you know best. This step can last ages and
ages - in fact in reality talking with other traders as well as personal experience
confirms that it can easily last well over a year and more nearer 3 years. This is
also the step when you are most likely to give up through sheer frustration.
Around 60% of new traders die out in the first 3 months - they give up and this is
good - think about it - if trading was easy we would all be millionaires. Another
20% keep going for a year and then in desperation take risks guaranteed to blow
their account which of course it does. What may surprise you is that of the
remaining 20% all of them will last around 3 years - and they will think they are
safe in the water - but even at 3 years only a further 5-10% will continue and go
on to actually make money consistently. By the way - they are real figures, not
just some I’ve picked out of my head - so when you get to 3 years in the game
don’t think its plain sailing from there. I've had many people argue with me about
these timescales - funny enough none of them have been trading for more that 3
years - if you think you know better then ask on a board for someone who's been
trading 5 years and ask them how long it takes to become fully 100% proficient.
Sure I guess there will be exceptions to the rule - but I haven’t met any yet.
Eventually you do begin to come out of this phase. You've probably committed
more time and money than you ever thought you would, lost 2 or 3 loaded
accounts and all but given up maybe 3 or 4 times but now its in your blood One
day - in a split second moment you will enter stage 3.

Step 3 - The Eureka Moment

Towards the end of stage two you begin to realize that it's not the system that is
making the difference. You realize that its actually possible to make money with a
simple moving average and nothing else IF you can get your head and money
management right. You start to read books on the psychology of trading and
identify with the characters portrayed in those books and finally comes the
Eureka Moment. The Eureka Moment causes a new connection to be made in
your brain. You suddenly realize that neither you, nor anyone else can accurately
predict what the market will do in the next ten seconds, never mind the next 20
minutes.

Because of this revelation you stop taking any notice of what anyone thinks -
what this news item will do and what that event will do to the markets. You
become an individual with your own method of trading. You start to work just one
system that you mold to your own way of trading, you're starting to get happy and
you define your risk threshold. You start to take every trade that your 'edge'
shows has a good probability of winning with. When the trade turns bad you don't
get angry or even because you know in your head that as you couldn't possibly
predict it isn't your fault - as soon as you realize that the trade is bad you close it.
The next trade or the one after it or the one after that will have higher odds of
success because you know your system works. You stop looking at trading
results from a trade-to-trade perspective and start to look at weekly figures
knowing that one bad trade does not a poor system make. You have realized in
an instant that the trading game is about one thing - consistency of your 'edge'
and your discipline to take all the trades no matter what as you know the
probabilities stack in your favor. You learn about proper money management and
leverage - risk of account etc. - and this time it actually soaks in and you think
back to those who advised the same thing a year ago with a smile. You weren't
ready then, but you are now. The Eureka Moment became the moment that you
truly accepted that you cannot predict the market.

Step 4 - Conscious Competence

You are making trades whenever your system tells you to. You take losses just
as easily as you take wins. You now let your winners run to their conclusion fully
accepting the risk and knowing that your system makes more money than it
looses and when you're on a loser you close it swiftly with little pain to your
account. You are now at a point where you break even most of the time - day in
day out. You will have weeks where you make 100 pips and weeks where you
lose 100 pips - generally you are breaking even and not losing money. You are
now conscious of the fact that you are making calls that are generally good and
you are getting respect from other traders as you chat the day away. You still
have to work at it and think about your trades but as this continues you begin to
make more money than you lose consistently. You'll start the day on a 20 pip
win, take a 35 pip loss and have no feelings that you've given those pips back
because you know that it will come back again. You will now begin to make
consistent pips week in and week out 25 pips one week, 50 the next and so on.
This lasts about 6 months

Step Five - Unconscious Competence

Now we’re cooking - just like driving a car, every day you get in your seat and
trade - you do everything now on an unconscious level. You are running on
autopilot. You start to pick the really big trades and getting 200 pips in a day
doesn’t make you any more excited that getting 1 pips. You see the newbies in
the forum shouting 'go dollar go' as if they are urging on a horse to win in the
grand national and you see yourself - but many years ago now. This is trading
utopia - you have mastered your emotions and you are now a trader with a
rapidly growing account. You're a star in the trading chat room and people listen
to what you say. You recognize yourself in their questions from about two years
ago. You pass on your advice but you know most of it is futile because they're
teenagers - some of them will get to where you are - some will do it fast and
others will be slower - literally dozens and dozens will never get past stage two,
but a few will. Trading is no longer exciting - in fact it's probably boring you to bits
- like everything in life when you get good at it or do it for your job - it gets boring
- you're doing your job and that's that. Finally you grow out of the chat rooms and
find a few choice people who you converse with about the markets without being
influenced at all. During this time you are honing your methods to extract the
maximum profit from the market without increasing risk. Your method of trading
doesn’t change - it just gets better - you now have what women call 'intuition' You
can now say with your head held high "I'm a currency trader" but to be honest
you don’t even bother telling anyone - it's a job like any other.

I hope you’ve enjoyed reading this journey into a traders mind and that hopefully
you’ve identified with some points in here. Remember that only 5% will actually
make it - but the reason for that isn’t ability, its staying power and the ability to
change your perceptions and paradigms as new information comes available.
The losers are those who wanted to 'get rich quick' but approached the market
and within 6 months put on a pair of blinkers so they couldn’t see the obvious - a
kind of "this is the way I see it and that’s that" scenario - refusing to assimilate
new information that changes that perception. I’m happy to tell you that the
reason I started trading was because of the 'get rich quick' mindset. Just that now
I see it as 'get rich slow' If you’re thinking about giving up I have one piece of
advice for you .... Ask yourself the question "how many years would you go to
college if you knew for a fact that there was a million dollars a year job at the end
of it?

Friday Blues

Nope, it bombed out on a wacky Friday night. I was quite nervous on this trade, and my premonition turned out to be true!

Well, enjoy the weekend, folks!

New Trade

Normally I don't take trades on Friday, but as usual, there are exceptions :-)

Let's see if this guy will give something to cheer about, as we head into the weekend!

You're Just Gambling, Dude!

That's what an Englishman told me at a popular hiking trail, after I've told him what I do for a living.

No matter how I tried to explain that trading is just like any other business, he wouldn't budge from his opinion.

Was I surprised by his conviction? That trading is just another form of gambling?

No, because he's not the first one who had blurted that out to me.

And he surely won't be the last one either.

Obviously I don't agree with his view, and here's why....

Yes, there is a risk of financial loss in trading.

Yes, you have no idea how your trade will turn out whenever you put in your order, simply because we're not 100% sure of what the outcome is gonna be.

It could turn out to be a winner, or a loser. Who knows?

So yes, there IS a gambling component on EACH individual trade, even after we've taken the trouble of analyzing our setups before taking that "high-probability" trade (in your opinion, that is).

Just like a flip of a coin, no?

But what if I tell you that if I can find a coin where it would land on its head 65% of the time (this is because of the way the coin was minted, making one side a bit heavier).......which side would you bet on?

If it's just over ONE coin toss, it would STILL be gambling (because we're not 100% sure)

If it's over say, 1000 coin flips, well.....now it gets interesting.

It's VERY LIKELY that the coin would land on its head MORE TIMES, don't you think so? Would you still consider this as gambling, now that you know that you're likely going to win, over a SERIES of coin tosses (instead of a single coin toss)?

Now that coin becomes YOUR EDGE, should you decide to "gamble" using it! Over the long run you'll win more than you lose, unless you lose that coin!

It's the same with trading - we need to find OUR edge. All great traders have their own edge.

Unfortunately, this edge is not easy to get. Requires lots of hard work to develop it.

And you hear talking heads saying that trading is so easy, that even a 6-year old can do it?

Go figure!

Closed Trade

Well, this kangaroo did jump up to my Take Profit point, so I banked it in.

New Trade

How high will this kangaroo jump, if at all? Let's see.

Accepting Trading Losses Gracefully

I know, this is easier said than done. It's painful to accept trading losses.

So whenever I find myself in a string of losses, I would step away from my trading computer for a few days - basically trying to avoid internalizing the pain and feeling damaged emotionally.

Usually after a few days, I will see the losses for what they truly are - a great trading education that has been cleverly disguised as a great emotional pain.

The Holy Grail

Found a very interesting article on the web regarding the subject matter........something that I could definitely relate to.

I humbly admit that I too, was at one time always on the lookout for the next "kick-ass" Forex system since sliced bread.

Enjoy reading!

Tuesday Trade

Exited this trade for a little profit, somewhere near the bottom area of that hammer candle.

Gaps

Man, how often do you see gaps happening on such a hugely liquid market such as FOREX? Well, that's exactly what took place on several currency pairs this week.

I must confess, I don't know how to play them - so I simply stay away from 'em. I just prefer to trade using stuffs that I'm already familiar with.

Really, for a while I thought I was looking at stock charts instead of FOREX, with all these gaps popping all over the place.

Speaking of stocks, I am now going to be paying more attention to this market, specifically NYSE & NASDAQ. Will post some stuff on this over at my stocks blog, when I have something interesting to say.

Until then, stay tuned for the next coming attraction.

OK, rant over.

Monday Trade

Closed this trade for a quickie. It's already at the "1st trouble area", and there's also CAD news in 2 hours time. I'll just grab what the market wants to give me at this time.

New Trade

It's Monday again, so let's start by knocking in a new trade, shall we?

New Trade

It's been quite a while since I last trade using the Daily chart.......

.......and it kinda felt good, simply because I simply walked away from the computer, as soon as I've entered my trade orders.

So let's see how this baby turns out when I fire up my computer again tomorrow morning!

Over & Out!

Out with profit. Great way to start the trading week.

New Trade

New week, new trade.

UJ

This is a quick hitter.

Losing Trade

I was trying to catch a falling knife.

New Trade

New trade, on a new week, with a new (lower) risk per trade.

Life of a Trader

When I first started to trade, I did like what almost everyone......buy some books, paid good money to attend trading seminars, surf forums, you know...the works. I did all these in order to copy some of the stuff that work (or seem to work) for these guys.

In other words, what I was trying to do was to shorten the learning curve. I wanted to be able to make money as soon as I had checked out of the hotel that I was in, after the trading seminar had ended.......

........which, of course, did not happen, as you probably have guessed! I found out the hard way that there is MORE to trading, than simply aping what the other guys are doing in their trades.

Many moons later, I began to REFINE & FINE-TUNE all the stuff that I've learnt, and mold it into a sort of personalized system or style that I'm comfortable with. At this stage, I now start to trade less frequent than what I used to do (even on intraday basis).

In other words, I tend to wait until all the elements come together (sorta waiting for all the planets to line up), before hitting the buy or sell button.

Getting from "copy & paste" to "defining my own trading style" phase does take quite a considerable amount of time, but it's well worth the effort.

Why?

Because when you reach this stage, you really don't care about other people's opinion about the setup. You've seen the pattern before during your extensive backtestings and screen time, and you know that this is a high probability trade setup.

OK, rant over. Back to trading!

Losing Trade

Lost this trade.

New Trade

Aussie Yen

Swiss Roll

Out with profit. It's good to start this trading week with a win (at least, for my ego)

New Trade

Another Swissy trade.

Losing Trades

Lost both of my USD.CHF & EUR.GBP trades today. I am now hitting a losing streak, particularly during this week.

I have to admit, my confidence did take a bit of a knock. So the sensible thing to do now, is to reduce my risk amount per trade.......until I feel better again. In other words, I'll still trade as per normal, but with reduced amount at risk.

Euro Express

Slotted in another new trade today, this time on the EUR.GBP.

Swiss Roll

Just got on-board of this Swissy pair. Let's see if she wants to rumble.

Indicators

I got a phone call this morning from an old friend asking me whether or not I have a certain type of MT4 indicator.

If you've noticed, my charts are pretty much devoid of any of the indicators - I pretty much rely on only Support & Resistance, and trend lines.

I have found that they suit me best, as they're pretty simple to use.

So, of course I told my friend that I don't have what he's looking for. In fact, he was quite taken aback when I told him that I don't use any mathematical indicators at all.

That is not to say that indicators are useless - many, many traders swear by them.

Maybe I'm just too dumb to use the indicators.......

Different strokes for different folks.

Rant over.

Well, the fat lady did sing!

Lost this trade. There was simply nothing that I could have done in terms of trade management.

All part & parcel of trading.

New Trade

Let's see if this baby wants to drop hard today!

Fiber Trade

Took large portion off at 1.3650 and moved my stop to 1.3614, where it eventually stopped out my remaining open positions for overall profit.

Monday Trade

Moved my stoploss on my fiber trade, just to reduce risk in case this pair reverses. So far, looking good.

Butterfingers

New month, new trade. Only thing is that this is not the kind of setup that I like, mainly due to the sideway move that this pair did prior to the Euro session.

I had wanted to yank off my order, but it was triggered when the Euro boys started coming in.....

So, what do I do now?

Not much, except to sit tight and see if I have opportunity to move my stop to BE, if it starts to move upward.

Let's see.

Signing off for the week

Momentum is the life blood of any financial market. If the market doesn't move, well, there won't be any potential profit (or loss).

I closed my usd.jpy trade for BE, as this pair clearly has no momentum, and just wafting along aimlessly.

Clearly, the big boys are sitting on their hands, waiting for something to occur, before showing their hands again. I suspect it could be the news that is due to be reported in the later part of the day.

So if the big boys are gun-shy, so will I......especially with today being a Friday.

There's always another trade to catch.

New Trade

It's Fiday once again, so let's slot in one more trade, before we head off for the weekend.

Cash some chips in

My 2nd portion of the EUR.CAD trade was stopped out for an overall decent profit.

New Trade

Finally found something to chew on!

Entered this trade while I was sitting beside my daughter's hospital bed (she's there because of dehydration due to frequent vomiting).

Already taken off some profit off the table. Since the overall trend is down, I'll simply leave my original stop point alone, and see if I can ride this down further.

If price goes against me at this point, I'll end up with just a bit of loose change.

Let's see.

Sitting on my hands

This has got to be one of those times where I just could not find any decent setups to trade.

This is also the time when there is a HUGE tendency to "force a trade", seeing non-existent trade setups simply because we just "want to trade"...........kind of like a water mirage in a desert.

I have to remind myself tto be patient during times like this.

Continue twiddling my thumb.......

Losing Trade

Lost this trade.

New Trade

Will this pair take off? We will know soon.

Winning Trade

Out of EUR.GBP trade at just below the 0.8800 level.

New Trade

Let's see how she goes...

Loose Change

Closed the chf.jpy trade with a bit of net gain, when the market reversed.

Winning Trade

Closed GBP.JPY trade for a profit. That leaves another Yen pair (chf.jpy) still running.

2 new trades

I don't normally trade two highly correlated pairs at the same time, but I kind of like how they're both setting up.

With correlated setups, you'd get double whammy should they both fail. Thus, making these trades riskier than usual.

As always, let's see if the Yen continues to strengthen itself during the European trading session.